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      CommentAuthormeinside100
    • CommentTimeOct 29th 2008 edited
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    Seriously, when I was at Frys people would get fired over the dumbest stuff if you were not liked by management. I saw people get 5-day for not having polished shoes, for having gum in their mouths, questioning a DM over dumb stuff (making sure PUZZLES are in ABC order, only to see them trashed after 5 mins, especially on weekends), looking at a Muslim co-worker funny (happened to one girl during training and got fired), getting fired for making a fake Fry's card when all the attractive Frys Card Girls do it (trust me, management knows) and nothing ever happens for it unless you are an unattractive girl or a guy (regardless of how you look).....I can can go on and on....oh wait, getting fired and not being shown the proof, even though they have it, and being given some BS reason for not being shown the evidence. One time this guy was accussed of taking a soda, got 5 dayed (later discovered he didn't do it) and they refused to show the tape to him for legal reason....WHAT DA IS GOING TO PRESS CHARGES OVER A $1 SODA. Thats why customers take them all the time, because even they know it and LP doesn't care because its only $1 dollar.
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      CommentAuthorSuzukiman
    • CommentTimeOct 29th 2008
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    remember that is 1 more dollar and 1 less pay check.Looking for my head ............... yeah the eight valve one yeah ....
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      CommentAuthornewmedia
    • CommentTimeOct 29th 2008
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    Fry's managements been watching too much of The Apprentice. :face-devil-grin:  
     
    Wow, this place runs like car dealership...:face-monkey:
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    Suzukiman: remember that is 1 more dollar and 1 less pay check.
     
     
    Suzukiman: remember that is 1 more dollar and 1 less pay check.
     
     
    Sure, for the Frys brothers and Kathy.
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      CommentAuthorSuzukiman
    • CommentTimeOct 29th 2008
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    I've seen better car dealerships. try seasoned loan sharks.Looking for my head ............... yeah the eight valve one yeah ....
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    Sounds like the Fountain Valley Store....:face-devil-grin:
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      CommentAuthorasdf
    • CommentTimeOct 31st 2008
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    Its just clean up time till christmas comes.
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    elusivententionz: Sounds like the Fountain Valley Store....:face-devil-grin:
     
     
    Please give examples from your store.
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    newmedia: Fry's managements been watching too much of The Apprentice. :face-devil-grin:  
     
    Wow, this place runs like car dealership...:face-monkey:
     
     
    No, a car dealership is a lot better looking, smells better and doesn't require you to bend over just to get help.
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      CommentAuthorAyaHu
    • CommentTimeNov 3rd 2008
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    meinside100:
    newmedia: Fry's managements been watching too much of The Apprentice. :face-devil-grin:  
     
    Wow, this place runs like car dealership...:face-monkey:
     
     
    No, a car dealership is a lot better looking, smells better and doesn't require you to bend over just to get help.
     
     
    And usually has popcorn.Superhero!
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      CommentAuthorSasquatch
    • CommentTimeNov 3rd 2008
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    Popcorn = :-(  
    Kettle Korn = :-D
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    elusivententionz: Sounds like the Fountain Valley Store....:face-devil-grin:
     
     
    I used to work at that store and I saw a lot of decent folks that got fired. Sure there were a few people who got fired for being in the parking lot while on the clock or stealing, but I remember almost getting fired for standing on the bottom shelf to get items down. I got sent home early once as punishment one day because I had been half an hour late... three weeks ago. I was chastised for using a computer in service to look up information for a customer. I was one of the smartest people in the department, but there were some questions where looking it up online was the easiest/fastest way to get the answer. Meanwhile, supervisors would go look up airline rates on the same computer. I never saw any of them disciplined or even chastised for clearly dubious use of company resources.  
     
    I knew one guy who got fired supposedly because the store manager caught him reading a book on the sales floor. WTF? Some people were fired due to "poor" numbers, but in some cases it seemed rather random. I knew people that had lower profit/hr & lower commission/hr numbers than I did when I got fired that didn't get fired. I also knew people who got fired for "poor sales" who were in the top 10 in sales the week they were fired. That makes no sense at all. I am sure there was some method to their madness, but it wasn't clear to me that is for sure.  
     
    I even knew one guy who got a five day suspension for not doing the Fry's cheer. WTF?  
     
    Meanwhile I knew people who lied to customers left and right and supervisors and management often knew about it, but did nothing about it. Other co-workers would dump customers on me and wonder why I had trouble making numbers. Throwing "customers" at me who just want to waste my time isn't helping me make money.  
     
    The Fountain Valley store seemed really mismanaged, but the whole Fry's chain does some quirky stuff that didn't make much sense to me or to anyone else.
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    "I even knew one guy who got a five day suspension for not doing the Fry's cheer. WTF?"  
     
     
    It crap like this why America needs unions.
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      CommentAuthorSasquatch
    • CommentTimeNov 4th 2008
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    Unions = Outsourcing
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    . I'm expecting the 5 day any time now.
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      CommentAuthorgobo760
    • CommentTimeJun 18th 2010
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    jake_store16: . I'm expecting the 5 day any time now.
     
     
    Uh oh, did you show up early for work one too many times? =/
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    I refused to lead the cheer. Told a DM "No" in front of the entire opening crew. The store manager was not happy, in the lightest terms. Asked my DM "What's going on with your girl there?" Apparently this is a prostitution ring and my DM is my pimp.

    Been there over a year, never a complaint against me, never a qualm. I get there early every day, don't call in sick, do more work than I'm expected to do in my position, but don't want to play cheerleader for a group of high-school minded retail workers, and now I'm in huge trouble. Go figure.
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    Is just a cheer....who is really the "high-school minded" retail "worker".
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    My point exactly: It's just a cheer. If they want it to not be a big deal, let's have it not be a big deal. I show up to meeting (which is pointless for me anyway since none of what they talk about pertains to anything I do) and following along. If I don't want to lead, I shouldn't have to.
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    If it's just a cheer, what's so tough about leading / doing it?

    The cheer is actually good for the store IMO, it gets some of the morning crew motivated and really shows Fry's pride. If you aren't enjoying work at Fry's, quit...
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      CommentAuthorSasquatch
    • CommentTimeJun 22nd 2010
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    This is why I dislike the guest account.  
     
    I agree with the first guest. The cheer is stupid. You know what gets me excited? Risk analysis. Being a goddamnned cheerleader? Not so much. The closer I get to finishing my degree, the slower my schooling seems.
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      CommentAuthorObiWan
    • CommentTimeJun 22nd 2010
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    Sas - are you going to UofH for the degree in risk?
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      CommentAuthornfl
    • CommentTimeJun 23rd 2010
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    Yeah I hate the guest accounts too. When there are 10 guest posts in a row, it gets hard to tell who is who.
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    come work at best buy...they're better
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    As long as no one starts some dumb ass cheer when I'm in the store...I'm fine with it. But I feel sorry for the employees who have to put a game face on for something so juvenile.
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    Actually it isn't too bad. Puts me in a good mood for the rest of the day.
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    Ever since I got back from vacation two weeks ago I've been on a bad stretch with the DM over stupid stuff. I'm not sure if I care or not, but the chances of me getting a five day are approaching the threshold. I'd put money on it. I can't tell if I'm nervous or excited. I'll let you guys know what happens.
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      CommentAuthorAiluridae
    • CommentTimeJun 25th 2010 edited
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    Guest: Actually it isn't too bad. Puts me in a good mood for the rest of the day.
     
     
    And that's completely fine. As much as I don't like the cheer, I'm not necessarily saying it should be done away with completely (though I'd have no qualms with that), because I'm sure there are people who do enjoy it and get that sort of benefit from it. My only point was if someone doesn't want to get up in front of the opening crew to LEAD the thing, they shouldn't HAVE to. I show up and follow along even though I feel I, personally, don't get anything out of it. Why do I have to perform in front of everyone to amuse the upper management?  
     
    And to anyone who says "It's just a cheer ...", you're only repeating my point. It IS just a cheer. I didn't try to make it a big deal. They did. If I'm not the kind of person who enjoys getting up in front of people like that, what's the benefit in forcing me in to it? I just respect the manager/supervisor less and dislike him/her more. In addition to that, it puts me in a bad mood for the rest of the day ... and isn't that counter-productive to the whole purpose of the little pow-wow in the first place?  
     
    btw; I am the original "Guest" complainer about having to do the cheer (and getting in "trouble" for not doing it). To cut down on "Guest" account confusion.
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    To me the cheer is not a big deal. It's just one of life's little abrasions. It's not totally pointless though...at least it exposes Fry's small minded management for what is it. There's value in that.
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      CommentAuthorskullywag
    • CommentTimeJun 25th 2010
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    I think the Frys cheer is a good thing. I think management should pass out pom-poms for those who wish to expand the experiance, and that all employees be required to do the cheer for customers as well when asked. :face-monkey:
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    I think one of the San Diego area Fry's is across the street from a WalMart. How about a cheer competition?? WalMartians may be more enthusiastic early in the morning but Fry's can get around that with a little extra effort. Anything for the store. Should be fun to watch...
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      CommentAuthorsoccerboy
    • CommentTimeJun 29th 2010
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    If you think about it, "Some" Supervisors treat Associates like Animals. They pick the people they want and force them to do this ridiculous cheer that the majority of the people would rather not do. I also don't think you should not get in trouble for not doing the Fry's Cheer. I think the Supervisors should do the cheer everyday...they should help the Associates out by telling them more often what Items are hot and how they can approach a customer on a certain situation. Instead, you have Supervisors that don't give a damn about you. It shouldn't be like that...but then again we are talking about Fry's Supervisors...:face-devil-grin:
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      CommentAuthorMysBitch
    • CommentTimeJun 29th 2010
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    Guest: I refused to lead the cheer. Told a DM "No" in front of the entire opening crew. The store manager was not happy, in the lightest terms. Asked my DM "What's going on with your girl there?" Apparently this is a prostitution ring and my DM is my pimp.  
     
    Been there over a year, never a complaint against me, never a qualm. I get there early every day, don't call in sick, do more work than I'm expected to do in my position, but don't want to play cheerleader for a group of high-school minded retail workers, and now I'm in huge trouble. Go figure.
     
     
    Been there done that....I got a 1 day for refusing to do the morning cheer. Course the opening DM had it out for me...he would choose me everytime and I called him on it in front of everyone. I even stated it on the paperwork so it was on record. Everyone was shocked cause I don't do such things. I was told it was cause I refused to do something a superior told me to do. The DM told me he could fire me for it, funny thing is he is gone now. I too don't care to do the morning cheer, too many people make fun of the ones doing it and I don't like being made a fool of.  
     
    Just document your reasons why you refused to do it, if it is a good reason then it goes in to your favor. Also you might want to call Corp let them know about the SM's comment. That could be borderline sexual harassment.
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      CommentAuthorasdf
    • CommentTimeJun 30th 2010
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    Cult like activities like the morning cheer could be illegal.
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      CommentAuthorsoccerboy
    • CommentTimeJun 30th 2010
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    Fry's Morning Cheer is Degrading Mr.:face-devil-grin:
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    Not everyone knows the cheer. Can someone put the it on youtube?
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      CommentAuthornfl
    • CommentTimeJun 30th 2010
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    Someone put it on myspace (anyone remember that site?).  
     
    http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=57583861  
     
    Couldn't imagine why anyone wouldn't want to lead it though...
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      CommentAuthornfl
    • CommentTimeJun 30th 2010
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    Oh, I almost forgot. Everyone is supposed to do the moves that they show in that video, in addition to the cheer. The only difference is that you are supposed to say "we do" only once.
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      CommentAuthorasdf
    • CommentTimeJul 1st 2010
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    Can someone post the lyrics the Fry's cheer?
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      CommentAuthornfl
    • CommentTimeJul 1st 2010
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    Are you serious? The lyrics for the cheer are completely contained in the video... Just take off the last two "we do's" and you have the Fry's Cheer. If there is anything on it you have a question, let me know, but right now I am too lazy/drunk to type the whole cheer (no offense).
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      CommentAuthorsoccerboy
    • CommentTimeJul 2nd 2010
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    Didn't know dumb blondes were included in the cheer...this changes everything. :P:face-devil-grin:
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    i remember when i first started working at frys in the morning meetings the software dept would introduce new releases INCLUDING PORNOGRAPHY LOL. its the funniest thing seeing some old lady reading the cover of "ass hunters #22"
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    I have only been asked to do the cheer once and after arguing that I didn't want to half way through they told me to stop. Went like so:

    *clapping* Gimme and 'F', group shout 'F', Gimme a 'U', group laughing but shouting 'U' - I was then told to stop as they could guess where that was going.

    Later that day I was confronted about it and told them I forgot how to spells Fry's. The store manager gave me a dirty look as he doesn't like me anyway but really couldn't say anything else. Later that day they sent me home early as a 1 day suspension for coming back from lunch late (2:06 instead of 2:00 because the police shutdown the intersection in front of the store for a funeral procession. Almost 9 years there and still employed. Total suspensions 6 to date.
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    Guest: If it's just a cheer, what's so tough about leading / doing it?  
     
    The cheer is actually good for the store IMO, it gets some of the morning crew motivated and really shows Fry's pride. If you aren't enjoying work at Fry's, quit...
     
     
    I don't know anyone who has been motivated by the morning cheer. Quite the contrary, I must agree with Soccerboy, its juvenile and degrading...if I am present for the cheer, I always hide in back behind everyone. Never led it once, and in fact I usually stay in my car in the morning then walk in right as the cheer is ending since my shift usually starts at 8 AM, the exact minute the store opens. I once declined to lead the cheer and I got scowls but no official reprimand.
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    Sasquatch: Unions = Outsourcing
     
     
    Incorrect.  
     
    Unions = two-day weekend. Time was, employees only one day off per week, and that day was always Sunday, because you were supposed to go to church.  
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amalgamated_Clothing_Workers_of_America  
     
    Outsourcing is the result of large companies trying to screw the workers even harder, despite the labor unions' efforts.  
     
    Now, if there was some way to unionize the rest of the world, and leave not a single square millimeter on the planet where sweatshops are possible, then we might see some really profound and beneficial changes made.
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    Guest: If it's just a cheer, what's so tough about leading / doing it?  
     
    The cheer is actually good for the store IMO, it gets some of the morning crew motivated and really shows Fry's pride. If you aren't enjoying work at Fry's, quit...
     
     
    I smell a plant from Fry's management.  
     
    In *my* opinion, we could recite a random selection of names and numbers from the phone book, but if we did it rhythmically and at the top of our lungs, it would provide the same level of "getting motivated". Clapping hands together, taking deep breaths and bellowing in unison works tolerably well to wake people up in the mornings, regardless of the words being bellowed.  
     
    "Fry's pride" requires that Fry's provide consistent examples of behavior patterns that the employees wish to support or emulate. Salesmen who steal quotes from each other, supervisors and managers who willingly and knowingly sell damaged or defective products at full price, and a Home Office that seems bound and determined to force every non-management-rank associate to work on commission AS WELL AS actually keep the store running... represents neither high-minded ideals, enlightened self-interest, or even remotely intelligent treatment of the ones who actually do the work.  
     
    As for quitting, well... If I or (likely) anyone else below management-rank were offered a job that was in any way an improvement over working at Fry's (like, say, one that did not require a forty-minute-plus commute, or was willing to adjust my schedule to accommodate public transportation schedules, etc.), then I would take it in a hot second.
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    meinside100: Seriously, when I was at Frys people would get fired over the dumbest stuff if you were not liked by management.
     
     
    In California, at least, those "stupid" reasons are necessary to prevent Frys from paying unemployment benefits. Y'see, as the system stands now, if Frys "downsizes" you (meaning that it wasn't as a result of your actions), then the State of California takes money from Frys equal to a portion of your previous wages and then keeps paying you. As the very thought of giving money away to someone who isn't working for them makes the Four At The Top break out in hives, Frys management must twist the truth in order to avoid paying you that money. Therefore, if you are consistently so much as a single minute late for your shifts, or (heaven forbid) they have videotape of you shoplifting a single pack of gum, then you can kiss your unemployment benefits goodbye.
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      CommentAuthorSasquatch
    • CommentTimeNov 5th 2011
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    littletroublemaker:
    Sasquatch: Unions = Outsourcing
     
     
    Incorrect.  
     
    Unions = two-day weekend. Time was, employees only one day off per week, and that day was always Sunday, because you were supposed to go to church.  
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amalgamated_Clothing_Workers_of_America  
     
    Outsourcing is the result of large companies trying to screw the workers even harder, despite the labor unions' efforts.  
     
    Now, if there was some way to unionize the rest of the world, and leave not a single square millimeter on the planet where sweatshops are possible, then we might see some really profound and beneficial changes made.
     
     
    ...That was a problem a century ago... Which is when ACWA was founded...  
     
    "Outsourcing is the result of large companies trying to screw the workers even harder, despite the labor unions' efforts."  
    That doesn't even make sense.  
     
    "Now, if there was some way to unionize the rest of the world, and leave not a single square millimeter on the planet where sweatshops are possible, then we might see some really profound and beneficial changes made."  
    This is just stupid.
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    Sasquatch:  
    ...That was a problem a century ago... Which is when ACWA was founded...
     
     
    Yes, and it is *not* a problem now, BECAUSE the labor unions changed the entire working culture. Think about that for a moment. The Bible (the source of altogether too much tradition and legal precedent, even today) says that Sunday is the day of rest, and for several centuries before the ACWA put their foot down, people were lucky to have even one day off of work per week. The fact that you and I and everyone else EXPECT to have two days off of work per week is due to the previous three generations of people growing up and living with the notion that that is a "proper" work-week.  
     
    Sasquatch:"Outsourcing is the result of large companies trying to screw the workers even harder, despite the labor unions' efforts."  
    That doesn't even make sense.
     
     
    Exactly what part is unclear? The Big Three Automakers all but killed an entire city when they shut down the car-manufacturing plants there, claiming that it was "more cost-effective" to have the cars assembled in Mexico (where the workers' wages take a much smaller bite out of the company profits). Each and every time anyone in the U.S. calls a "customer service" line where the person on the other end works somewhere in New Delhi, the company who chose to outsource their U.S.-based customer service department did so to make it "more cost-effective". And so on. The companies pay minimal benefits, and the workers' salaries are a fraction of what American workers can demand and get.  
     
    Sasquatch:"Now, if there was some way to unionize the rest of the world, and leave not a single square millimeter on the planet where sweatshops are possible, then we might see some really profound and beneficial changes made."  
    This is just stupid.
     
     
    Why? If every single human being on the planet must be paid a living wage, as dictated by the local conditions of where the humans in question live, then the world cannot help but improve.  
    Study your history: each and every element of humanity's "higher achievements" (arts, science, culture, etc.) that was not based on immediate survival needs came about when the majority of humans did not have to spend every waking hour scrabbling for food, water and safe shelter. If not a single person on the planet goes hungry, or is without clean drinking/washing water, then all of humanity would then have more time to devote to improving our lot even further.
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      CommentAuthorgoletadude
    • CommentTimeOct 7th 2012
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    meinside100: Seriously, when I was at Frys people would get fired over the dumbest stuff if you were not liked by management. I saw people get 5-day for not having polished shoes, for having gum in their mouths, questioning a DM over dumb stuff (making sure PUZZLES are in ABC order, only to see them trashed after 5 mins, especially on weekends), looking at a Muslim co-worker funny (happened to one girl during training and got fired), getting fired for making a fake Fry's card when all the attractive Frys Card Girls do it (trust me, management knows) and nothing ever happens for it unless you are an unattractive girl or a guy (regardless of how you look).....I can can go on and on....oh wait, getting fired and not being shown the proof, even though they have it, and being given some BS reason for not being shown the evidence. One time this guy was accussed of taking a soda, got 5 dayed (later discovered he didn't do it) and they refused to show the tape to him for legal reason....WHAT DA IS GOING TO PRESS CHARGES OVER A $1 SODA. Thats why customers take them all the time, because even they know it and LP doesn't care because its only $1 dollar.
     
     
    That's because management at Fry's is dumb and too nazi to be reasonable...period.