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      CommentAuthorworm
    • CommentTimeJun 20th 2007 edited
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    My friend who works at Fry's told me that they has stopped reordering HD-DVD players in response to Blockbusters choice for Bluray. It looks like the war is over. My other friend that works at Best Buy is telling me the same thing.  
     
    I also found this article:  
    http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/hd-dvd-on-the-way-out%3F/blockbusters-blu+ray-endorsement-having-major-impact-on-hd-dvd-player-sales-270313.phpi am a worm.
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      CommentAuthorcalculon
    • CommentTimeJun 20th 2007
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    This is false.  
     
    HD-DVD players are still being ordered.  
     
    Plus, that article cites no reliable sources, just a "tipster" at an "unnamed retailer." That could be one of the retards on this site :P  
     
    Also, the XXX industry has come out strongly in support of HD-DVD, and thats really where DVD's got their jump from, porn titles are an incredible motivator for some people to purchase a player.
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      CommentAuthorMacIas
    • CommentTimeJun 21st 2007
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    Blue Ray Rules! Sony helped make it the best by putting it on their Sony Playstation 3! Plus alot of their new computers come with it now. Sony has sold way more Blue Ray players/drivers than Toshiba's HD-DVD. Blockbuster thanks for helping me decide which will be my next new disc player. BTW LG makes a gread Blue Ray+HD DVD Rom player which is a great solution to both! If you don't have a HD TV keep DVD and don't upgrade untill you buy a new TV.  
     
    - MacIas  
    San Diego Store, 15aka Luis - FrysForum Administration Group
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      CommentAuthorworm
    • CommentTimeJun 21st 2007
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    I just confirmed it with Best Buy and Fry's today. I check with the assistant store managers and they told me the same thing.  
     
    Blu-Ray has an impressive list of backers that includes Sony, Disney, Dell, HP, Apple, Hitachi, LG Electronics (Goldstar), Matsushita (Panasonic), Mitsubishi, Pioneer, Philips, Samsung, TDK, Thomson, Vivendi Universal (games), and Electronic Arts.  
     
    The important names missing from that list are Toshiba, NEC, Viacom, NBC Universal, and Time Warner. They back the competing HD-DVD format that’s also based on a blue laser, but uses similar manufacturing techniques to DVD. The resulting discs are supposed to be less expensive, but they definitely hold less—15GB per layer instead of Blu-Ray’s 25GB per layer.  
     
    Even Apple is on it isn't making movies is what macs are good for?  
     
    And who cares about porn on any disc format anyway? There is unlimited access to porn online just as people download MP3s instead of buying music CDs.  
     
    Porn and music is easily available online were movies are not.i am a worm.
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      CommentAuthorcalculon
    • CommentTimeJun 21st 2007
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    HP supports HD-DVD only. They make a HD-DVD external USB drive, and all their highest end media center PC's come with HD-DVD drives.  
     
    LG can hardly be considered in any camp. They're actively producing and marketing players that will play both HD-DVD and BluRay. Phillips would probably fall in this camp too since they have a strategic partnership with LG to produce new drives.  
     
    Apple isn't in any camp, as none of their systems come with BluRay or HD-DVD drives. So I don't know where you got that from.  
     
    So if you walk into a store and try to buy a high def DVD player, you get your fair choice still... And if you try to buy a laptop, you can get BluRay only in Sony's, whereas HD-DVD comes in high-end HP's, Fujitsu's, and Toshibas. Also, an external HD-DVD drive is an option for laptop owners, whereas there's no external BluRay option to be found on any retail shelf.  
     
    And as for porn not being an issue, thats completely false. The DVD explosion is credited largely to the porn studios endorsing it and beginning to use it.
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      CommentAuthorcalculon
    • CommentTimeJun 21st 2007
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    I personally couldn't care what format wins, I just wish this didn't happen every decade with 2 competing formats (usually involving Sony), but a little more info for HD-DVD's oomph.  
     
    HD-DVD is also strongly supported by Microsoft and Intel, meaning they'll do a hellofalot to keep it in their computers, which, at last count, more than 80% of the world was using.
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    how's the quality between the two? i don't really care which one wins out, i just want it for cheap :face-devil-grin:
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      CommentAuthorcalculon
    • CommentTimeJun 25th 2007
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    Either one is the same. They both use the same video codec for HD playback... H.264, which has pretty much become the industry standard. BluRay adds in a few more audio channels, but thats about it.  
     
    I will say, the one thing about BluRay that is a nice feature is the mandatory protective lining they put on the data side of the disk. There's some videos circulating the net showing people taking steel wool to the back of a BluRay disc and then it still playing perfectly afterwards. Of course, there's also reports of that sealant corroding and causing the disc to be unplayable... I guess nothing is perfect.
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      CommentAuthorworm
    • CommentTimeJun 26th 2007
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    rab:HD-DVD is also strongly supported by Microsoft and Intel, meaning they'll do a hellofalot to keep it in their computers, which, at last count, more than 80% of the world was using.
     
     
    Yes rab 80% of the computers in the world is capable of playing Bluray media.i am a worm.
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      CommentAuthorskullywag
    • CommentTimeJul 27th 2007
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    I think they whole "BlueRay vs HD" is silly. I've heard comparisons to the old VHS vs Beta thang years ago.....and thats like comparing apples to oranges.  
    VHS machines were incapable of playing Beta tapes, and vice versa, so yes people had to choose. This is a different age. Prices on players and burners are still to high to get a REAL judgment as to which is better. Many manufactures are working on players/burners that will play/burn EITHER format (remember the DVD-R/DVD+R debate, and how that won out?). Already burners are available that will read HD and read/write Blueray......FULLY multi capable burners are just around the corner. One of the major studios is planning on putting HD on one side of the disc, and BlueRay on the other. By the time prices fall to the affordable mark, nobody will have to choose......just buy which ever disc is on sale. The market will support both formats.
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      CommentAuthorworm
    • CommentTimeJul 28th 2007
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    In recent news...  
    Woolworths drops HD-DVD  
    Target drops HD-DVD  
     
    Whos next...i am a worm.
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      CommentAuthorMorganC
    • CommentTimeJul 30th 2007
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    what's the difference?
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    MorganC:what's the difference?
     
     
    That Sony has an endless amount of blank checks, not to say Microsoft doesn't, but Sony has never had the mentality to give up on anything.  
     
    I really don't care either way, it is just going to be dual format when is all said and done anyways.
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      CommentAuthorworm
    • CommentTimeNov 25th 2007 edited
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    thats what I said about betamax years back. it then happened, but not for too long.  
     
    Fry's gave up on hd-dvd. see black friday adi am a worm.
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      CommentAuthorSasquatch
    • CommentTimeNov 25th 2007
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    You're retarded. We haven't given up on shit. Also, HD-DVD is going to win, smell the air.
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      CommentAuthorAyaHu
    • CommentTimeNov 26th 2007
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    I remember the days of Laser Disks. We had a big screen tv and Laser Disk player. This was before DVDs. I feel ancient.Superhero!
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      CommentAuthorSasquatch
    • CommentTimeNov 26th 2007
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    I remember the days when hard drive platters were that big.
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      CommentAuthorworm
    • CommentTimeNov 27th 2007 edited
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    I remember when laser discs were analog and video cds were nothing more than mpeg v1 video with layer 2 or 3 for audio on a 650mb disk. Standard movies spanned over 2 discs for both formats.i am a worm.
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      CommentAuthorchbrules
    • CommentTimeNov 30th 2007
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    My money is on HD-DVD, and for good reason.  
     
    Betamax was a superior format to VHS, but who won that one? The problem is, just because blu-ray may have some possible technological step up on HD-DVD, it doesn't give it any better picture quality. The audio is virtually the same quality.  
     
    But here's the lovely part, price. HD-DVD players and discs are cheaper to produce and sell. They offer virtually the same exact quality. What more could you want?  
     
    Just because Ferrari makes amazing track cars doesn't mean the Porsche 911 GT3 is rubbish because it's cheaper and not as technologically superior with F1 tech. What on the road more, Porsche 911's or Ferrari F430's?
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      CommentAuthorfobking10
    • CommentTimeNov 30th 2007 edited
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    Lets just say whoever the porn industry picks, wins! :face-smile:
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      CommentAuthorAyaHu
    • CommentTimeNov 30th 2007
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    worm:I remember when laser discs were analog and video cds were nothing more than mpeg v1 video with layer 2 or 3 for audio on a 650mb disk. Standard movies spanned over 2 discs for both formats.
     
     
    I think I had a 7 disk set of Zulu. But Zulu takes up 7 of any disk.Superhero!
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      CommentAuthorworm
    • CommentTimeDec 1st 2007
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    The number one medium for porn is the Internet. I freely have access to 1 billion porn sites with high-def videos and images instantaneous. I'm sorry porn won't be the deciding factor here. We aren't in the 80s!  
     
    Why did betamax fail? Sony locked down the technology. Everyone wanted to sell players but only Sony wanted to sell them. When the VHS standard released everyone was able to sell them. Who will win when you have a choice between 10 vhs to 1 betamax.  
     
    So what exactly is going on today with Toshiba?i am a worm.